Dr. Peter Glidden: Now, Dr. Wallach, arthritis is on the rise all around the world and it’s a big problem for everybody, even if it’s just minor arthritis, right? You can’t play eighteen holes of golf anymore. You wait your entire life to retire, save up all your money for the golden years, and then even if it’s mild form of arthritis, your mobility is reduced, even if it’s just a little bit, it’s bad, it’s a problem. And, the conventional medical industry really has nothing for this except anti-inflammatory meds, pain medications, and then surgery, and then when the surgery fails, another surgery. So, let’s talk about your experience and your perspective on the arthritic condition.
Dr. Joel Wallach: Well, Dr. Glidden, every vertebrate, whether an alligator, an elephant, a hummingbird or a human being, a dog, a fish, gets arthritis. It’s not a human thing, it’s a vertebrate thing. And arthritis is a mineral deficiency, vitamin deficiency, protein deficiency, omega 3 essential fatty acids deficiency disease of the muscular-skeletal system, is kind of the short way to say it. And, the number of nutrients that we require to prevent these things from happening is the 90, of course. And people falsely believe, “If I drink some of this calcium and take Tums and things like that, I’ll get everything I need for my bones.” Well, that’s not gonna work. You can’t eat broccoli and get enough calcium. You cannot eat tomatoes and get enough calcium and vitamin A.
You just can’t do it.
And so the industry, when we don’t have health insurance, where a veterinarian can’t use the animal as an ATM machine, or lock-box in a bank, what they had to do was learn how to prevent on a herd level these diseases, or deal with them after they occurred in a petty animal era down the line. And of course, we dealt a lot with this with commercial dog foods for instance, or commercial rat foods, or commercial horse foods, and this is how we dealt with arthritis, osteopenia, osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, degenerative arthritis, bone to bone arthritis, and rheumatoid arthritis which has a little bit different twist to it. And so, we did this on a herd basis, or a flock basis. It’s very economical, very effective, and it added many healthful, productive years to a chicken’s life, a cow’s life, a sheep’s life, a human’s life. And in the old days people supplemented with minerals every day. Now, most will say, “Come on, I used to hang around my grandmother and she never supplemented.” “Well, how old was your grandmother?”
“Well, she was 102.”
“Does she have a wood stove?”
“Oh yea, she had a wood stove till the day she died.”
“What’d they do with the ashes of the fire?”
“Well they threw them out in the garden.”
Well ashes are minerals and dumb luck some places have more minerals in them than others where the trees grow. When you burn the trees for fuel, when you burn the wood for fuel, the powder that’s left in the stove or the fireplace or the fire pit, in several countries, it’s not really ashes, it’s the minerals that are left when you burn away the carbon, the fuel. And they threw out these minerals, aka wood ashes, into the garden, and this is how they got their minerals. They worked out in the sun, they got their vitamin D, they ate sweet potatoes and tomatoes, which are rich in vitamin A, they would eat fresh vegetables and get their vitamin C, and this is how people lived, they lived off the land, they had all this fresh stuff, they planted, they harvested, ate it that day, and things were really in pretty good shape for many peoples. Not everybody, ’cause some places didn’t have enough minerals.
Well, as soon as we invented electricity at three o’clock in the afternoon, Monday, September fourth of 1882 on Pearl Street, New York City, Thomas Edison pulled the switch on electricity. Everything began to fall apart. Because our traditional source of minerals went away. An ecosystem got locked into the four food groups, it got locked into the seven food group pyramid, and the people as a result are a victim.
Well, as you point out, Dr. Glidden, the medical system developed pain relief. Which is very good, nobody has to be in pain, right? Pain relief. but what they’ve done in more modern times with the pain relief thing is that they’ve gone almost exclusively to narcotics, which require prescription, you can’t just go to the drug store and buy some over the counter. That’s not strong enough anymore, so you have to go in for a prescription. The doctors become very clever. What they do is they give you a prescription for a month. They don’t give an open prescription for a year, they give you a prescription for a month.
“Honey, we have to go get my prescription filled.”
“We just got I t filled last month!”
“Well, it’s only for a month, I gotta go get my prescription filled.”
So Grandma Ruthie goes and the doctor says, “Look, I need to satisfy the legal thing here, ’cause it is a narcotic. I need to give you a quick exam and then I’ll write your prescription.” He says, “You know, looking at you, you might have a little bit of something going on here, I need to put you in the hospital for a couple of days and run a bunch of tests.” And he writes the prescription. She takes it and reports to the hospital that evening and he runs a hundred thousand dollars’ worth of tests. He says, “you know, you get your kidney functions down a little bit, so what we’re gonna do is schedule you for dialysis.” Now, usually, historically, they’ll put people on dialysis when their creatinine get above six. Well, now her creatinine is 2.7. Normal is 0.9. So he puts her on dialysis. We’ll do just once a week, if it creeps up we’ll have to go to two, we’ll start once a week. And insurance pays. So now he’s taking a financial crisis and turning it into a financial I-hit-the-motherlode situation.
Dr. Peter Glidden: Yea.
Dr. Joel Wallach: Yea, this is what’s going on right now. and so people, if they were to use our 90 essential nutrients, the secret sauce, that deal with maintaining and repairing and supporting, maintenance repair of cartilage, ligaments, tendons, connective tissue, discs between the vertebrae, bone matrix, bone cell. You’ll find that you just never get these problems. I’m 75 years old, I don’t have these problems. I have complete range of motion, I have no pain, I can stand on my feet six, eight, ten hours without having to sit down. And so, I don’t have the problems that somebody who’s not supplementing will het because in the turnover all biological systems are whether it’s protein, or minerals, or vitamins, amino acids, fatty acids, they’re turning everything over. If you don’t have a constant supply to replace it, you begin to get deficiencies, and that’s what arthritis is.
Dr. Peter Glidden: Well, prevention of course is one thing, and who isn’t for prevention, right? When you know how to do it correctly then life is good, and supplement with the 90 essential nutrients, appropriate for body weight, give your bones and joints in this case the raw materials that they need and the right recipe with all of the stuff that’s necessary, all of the factors —
Dr. Joel Wallach: The secret sauce.
Dr. Peter Glidden: The secret sauce. And life is good. But what about when somebody already has arthritis. They didn’t know any of this. They’re 20 years old, they’re 40 years old, they’re 60 years old and they have an arthritic knee, what can we do for that?
Dr. Joel Wallach: Well, actually it’s quite easy. Even Harvard Medical School, Orthopedics Department, came out in July 2012, they looked at a meta-study of 300,000 records. 300,0000 records. They published it in the New England Journal of Medicine in July 2002. They said, “Joint surgery for arthritis is worthless.”
Dr. Peter Glidden: They said what?
Dr. Joel Wallach: There’s a headline in the New England Journal of Medicine, July 2002, Harvard Medical School, a meta-study of 300,000 records of people who had joint replacement. They said joint replacement surgery, hip and knee replacement surgery, for arthritis, is worthless. It was the headline.
Dr. Peter Glidden: That was 2002.
Dr. Joel Wallach: Yes, sir.
Dr. Peter Glidden: When we’re recording this, it’s 2014. That was 12 years ago. So, why haven’t they stopped doing knee and hip surgery?
Dr. Joel Wallach: ‘Cause people have insurance, they’re still willing to go get the surgery. ‘Cause the doctor convinces them that’s the only thing to do. It kinda goes back to the whole thing that people will get second, third, and fourth and five bids to get a new roof put on, but when your doctor, when “my doctor” they’re very protective there of my doctor, or “my doctor says I need a knee replacement,” I’m gonna get a knee, my doctor’s the best. Just ask his secretary.
Dr. Peter Glidden: Well, like the fellow said, right? When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail. But you would think that in a profession that espouses itself to be the king of the scientific method, the double-blinded placebo control, we have to research everything fellows. Even when the research, the research published, goes against the prevailing clinical trends, it takes a long time for that to enter into the mainstream. Okay, so let’s say I develop arthritis, I’m in my 50s, what am I gonna do?